Linda's daily check-in

Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.

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Post by alene1 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:44 pm

Hi Linda. I hope you're feeling better. I am SO happy for you that your girls are doing so well. You must be over the moon!

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Post by pinkhippie » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:53 am

Same page on political stuff here too Linda.

I am sorry to hear that your knee is bothering you. I hope it starts feeling better with a bit of rest.

My brain fog has been horrible lately too. I read that its a side effect of the stress of the pandemic and everything going on right now. I don't know if its true but the other day I was filling out a form and I forgot my 8 year old's birthday! I couldn't remember if it was the 20th or the 21st. I had to ask my husband!

I hope you are taking it easy and destressing a bit when you can.

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Post by lpearlmom » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:33 am

Thank you auto, Octavia & Alene! Yes, hopefully I’m still functional. 😊

Hippie, glad to know I’m not alone. I definitely think it has to do with this surreal existence we’re living in. The girls are still doing well but I’m feeling sick still so got a covid test today. Again. I’ve tried so hard to be careful but have felt pressured into making some compromises. We’ve been letting sweetpea see her bf and rosebud see her best friend occasionally. Also, we are doing a pod thing with our neighbors. On top of that the girls therapy sessions are in person and they don’t wear masks. Also there’s no mask requirement in the waiting room and some lady was in there the other day coughing. 🤦🏼‍♀️

I actually wrote a not so nice email to the therapist about my concerns. It seems like she’s not being that safe. She’s going on a plane to visit family over thanksgiving, getting haircuts etc. Ive been telling myself that the risk is worth it for the sake of of the girl’s mental health but Sweetpea told me that they decided that their therapist wasn’t going to focus on the girl’s relationship but on them individually instead. I don’t know why but this just really upset me. I kind of felt like she abandoned me & wish she had discussed it with me first. I think my email was harsher than intended because of my underlying anger.

The problem is the girls really like her and seem to be getting something out of the sessions so I’m not really sure what to do. My mil is a therapist and is still only doing video sessions. I’m not sure why their therapist isn’t doing that as well. Oh well, I will figure something out.

I was having some days of over the top eating that I know was in response to prior days of trying to restrict too much. So now I’m trying to make sure I eat enough at my meals but I think I’ve been overshooting it by a bit. Hopefully I can get it just right at some point.

71 days AF

Breakfast: bagel breakfast sandwich, watermelon, banana
Lunch: curry tuna sandwich, nf yogurt, watermelon
Dinner: plate of Chinese food
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Post by automatedeating » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:24 pm

71 days AF - that is so awesome Linda!!

Weird about how the therapist decided to shift the therapy focus without talking with you first. Hmmmm.

Fingers crossed your COVID test comes back negative...
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Post by lpearlmom » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:42 am

Thanks auto! You did a whole year though right? I originally thought id do a full year but now Im thinking Id just like to moderate a little better. I guess it’ll take a bit of experimenting to see what feels right. One thing is for sure. My skin looks so much better & I do not miss hangovers .

Well my test came back negative. I really am good at convincing myself that im sick. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Oh I also worked things out with the therapist.

I went back and re-read the NoS book. It just makes so much darn sense. I dont know why I felt the need to muck around with it. I’m going to recommit to the basics. Part of me thinks I keep trying to make it complicated because i dont really know what id do with myself if I didn’t have this problem to solve. I guess i need a new hobby.

At least all is well at home. The girls are being civil to each other but not being buddy buddy. I actually think this is better for now. They tend to go from being over the top best friends one minute to hating each other the next so maybe the luke warm approach will be better.

Poor cupcake is getting spade tomorrow. Oh boy im so sad for her. I hope she will be alright.

Doc is doing well. We are working on some ideas for our backyard which we don’t really use despite the fact that’s it’s pretty large. We mostly use the pool area which is on the side of the house and is the prettiest part of the whole house in my opinion. Anyway, he is going to build a pergola over the back patio and we are thinking of putting a korean bbq underneath it. I could see that being a lot of fun once we can have dinner parties again.


Im hoping to run tomorrow. Its been a few days now but my knee does seem better so maybe the rest was for the best.

Day 72 AF

Breakfast: oatmeal w fruit, spinach/blueberry smoothie
Lunch: veggie burger, watermelon, plain yogurt
Dinner: grilled salmon, mini vegan pot pie, arugula salad

The vegan pot pies were so good. I used whole wheat pie crust as the topping: https://minimalistbaker.com/1-hour-vegan-pot-pies/
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Post by alene1 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:56 pm

So glad your test came back negative!! It's so hard now because every time we get a cold we don't know if it's Covid or just a cold!!

Congrats on your continued break from alcohol. I'm sure you will figure this journey out as you go, and see whether alcohol adds to your life or takes away from it when your break is over. I'm glad that you're feeling so good. Yay for working things out with the therapist! It sounds like that was really stressful. You are doing a great job managing everything.

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Post by automatedeating » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:11 pm

Yes, I did over a year, actually. And now I'm back on the moderation wagon, and mostly it's OK, but sometimes I wish I didn't look forward to having wine and never had to think about moderation. I don't like the control it has over me (still); on the other hand, when I read on my No Alcohol forums I just can't agree with people that think everything about life is better without alcohol. For one thing, sex is way more fun after I've had even just one drink. And I know people try to tell me sober sex is the best, but .... not for me! :-) Anyway, I think I'll always have to police it more than most people, but for the time being, that effort is worth it and I'm not afraid I'm becoming an alcoholic. Ultimately, I feel frustration that I have not perfectly conquered this situation. LOL, I'm a control freak, I guess.

Flowerpup is getting spayed in November! I'm really nervous. She's so shy; I think the IV will really freak her out. Oh, well. Also, sometimes I feel guilty - that the main reason I'm getting her spayed is for my convenience rather than her health. But that is probably a little overly-existential. It will be nice to not have her dribble blood on the floor. :| :roll:
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Post by lpearlmom » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:22 am

I know auto. It’s complicated at least for those of us that have trouble with just having one. Quitting completely seems easier in a way because the boundaries are clearer (like NoS) but it seems so sad to never be able to have a nice glass of wine while going out to dinner, or a margarita at a Mexican restaurant or a martini when you’re feeling fancy. I definitely want to give moderation a try but i think it’ll be something i always have to keep an eye on too. And what should moderation look like is another question i have. Some things i read say no more than one glass a night, others say no more than 3 a night but no more than 7 in a week. Still others are saying no amount of alcohol is safe. It’s confusing. Kinda like nutrition i guess.

Thats funny about drunk sex vs sober sex. I guess ive never thought about it but it definitely relaxes one which could be helpful. I do think ppl go a little overboard with all the many benefits they attribute being sober to. I think it has helped with my depression and i do think my skin looks better. The main thing is ive proven to myself thst I don’t need to drink in order to be interesting in social situations. In fact, im probably just more of an airhead when i drink & therefore less interesting. I guess I’ll figure it out.

Cupcake is not a happy camper poor thing. We got her a soft ecollar thing and a special body suit for nighttime but she still hates it. She’s still pretty out of it and mad at us i think. Oh well just glad she’s okay. I definitely wouldn’t feel guilty for getting flower pup spayed. I think its just better all around.

Day 73 AF
Steps 13 k? (Forgot to wear it till 1030am)

Breakfast: avocado toast, 1 veggie sausage, mango
Lunch: veggie burger open faced, watermelon, chips & salsa
Dinner: ahi tuna bowl (so good), yogurt w fruit

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I love the certainty that comes with knowing when my meals will begin & end. It’s so nice not to have to think about food all day long.

Exercise: 41 mins running with hills (incline).
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Post by lpearlmom » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:12 am

Today was fine but I didn’t have time to workout. Hopefully tomorrow. I didn’t even walk the dogs since cupcake is still recovering & my step count was dismal. Our anniversary is sunday so doc took a couple days off. I wanted to go to a hotel for at least one night but he said he might have to deal with a patient that he’s worried about. Mostly I don’t mind his demanding job but sometimes it really sucks. Of course im glad he cares so much about his patients though.

Day 74 AF (no wine on our anniversary will be a challenge. )

Breakfast: Raisin Bran w cashew milk 🥛 and banana 🍌
Lunch: ahi tuna bowl & a blueberry spinach smoothie
Dinner: red pepper soup 🥣 & Caesar salad 🥗 watermelon 🍉

I tend to serve myself kind of small servings & then i feel a little hungry still after im done but every time the hunger subsides after just a few mins. Pretty cool.
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Post by alene1 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:30 pm

I'm glad you're enjoying no-S and the simple parameters and structure it gives. Simple is so good, isn't it? Glad pup is recovering and on the mend.

Alcohol is a very tough issue. I also struggle with moderation when I do drink. I tend to want to overdo a little bit at holidays and such, I think mostly because DH doesn't drink and so we don't have any wine or any other alcohol in the house unless we are having guests over who enjoy wine. When I lived by myself, and especially during/after my divorce I definitely went overboard. My dad was an alcoholic and I definitely feel like under the right circumstances it could be a problem for me too. I hope that you can find a sweet spot for yourself.

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Thx alene. She’s not happy with her e-collar poor baby. I think it’s really good we’re being mindful of our drinking. This challenge has been good for me because at least I know i can take a break if needed. Having relatives that struggle with alcohol makes us even more sensitive to any possible problems I think. My mom struggled with this for awhile so i get it.

Today was good. So nice having doc home. He worked on some outdoor lampposts that had fallen down and i did some major decluttering. I feel so much happier when our house is clean and organized. It’s ridiculous how much my surroundings effect me. Sometimes it can be annoying like when i have to sit in just the right spot in a restaurant.

Im listening to such a great book on audible. It’s called “Why we are wired to worry and how neuroscience will help you fix it.” Im having so many aha moments. It’s really helping me to reframe things in a more positive way.

Tomorrow night we’re going out to dinner for our 22nd anniversary. Its out on a patio so i feel pretty safe. I can’t wait! Also, my hairdresser is coming to my house Wednesday to cut all of our hair out by the pool. It sounds like she’s going to so my color too. Not sure how thats going to work though.

Day 75 AF
Steps: 17k

Breakfast: oatmeal, fruit
Lunch: smoothie, salad, avocado toast
Dinner: grilled shrimp salad

After having my eating all over the place it’s been so nice having structure back. I forgot how having firm boundaries in place immediately removes my constant food obsessing. Why do i always forget this? Tomorrow im going to try to keep the basic structure of nos in place but a little more relaxed. I feel like in the past ive either didn’t take S days which backfired later or id just permasnack which is pretty miserable. How about trying something in between? What a concept. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Exercise: walk dogs 🐕-25 mins; run 40 mins
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Post by alene1 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:25 pm

Happy 22nd anniversary!! I hope you have a wonderful dinner tonight. That shrimp salad you made sounds really yummy! I will have to plan for a shrimp dinner soon. Cute pup!! When does the collar come off? That's cool that your hair dresser is coming to you and will cut your hair outside. I bet you are so excited!

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Post by Octavia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:58 pm

Little cupcake! She is so sweet.

Hope you had a great evening last night - congratulations on your anniversary!

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Post by automatedeating » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:06 pm

Happy Anniversary!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Little Cupcake - poor thing!!!!

And, my best long-term success is when I keep to regular mealtimes (B,L,D) on S days but feel free to eat more fun things, so I'm all for your "something in the middle" for S Days.
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Post by pinkhippie » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:26 pm

Congratulations on your 22 year anniversary!

Also that is awesome that your hairdresser is coming to cut everyone's hair outside! Very exciting! I love getting a new cut!

Aww poor little cupcake. She is such a cutie! I hope she is recovered quickly!

I know what you mean about the boundaries of No S. MIne have definitely been loose lately and I obsess over food so much less when I just have simple Breakfast lunch and dinner boundaries.

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Post by oolala53 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:00 am

Just dropping by. Happy Anniversary! I am really impressed by 75AF days. I'm not a drinker but the bit I've done, well, I do appreciate a bit of a buzz, but don't like the taste of alcohol enough to get it. I tried for awhile because I read in more than one place that a drink a day for women was associated with healthy longevity-but not more. But there are other ways to get the good stuff. I sometimes cook some red wine into a sauce, but I usually just get it from other food.

Glad you're enjoying the structure again. I've been through some rebellion, but it's calming down.

The misguided survival drive is very real. I've read of very few people who can actually keep to the eating that supports low weight after having been heavy without some either very strong inner conviction or butting up against the desires in rather predictable cycles. Or actually devoting a great deal of energy to it, constantly learning more, communicating about it, etc. Or maybe I think that because I spend too much time on the net still looking at stuff!
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Post by clarinetgal » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:50 pm

Hi, Linda!

Happy 22 year Anniversary! My husband and I will celebrate our 22 year anniversary in January! I just decided to re-commit to No S, too. It is such a sane way to eat, and it’s something I can commit to long term (vs. some of the other ways of eating that are out there). I’m really glad your Covid test came back negative, and I’m glad you worked things out with the therapist.
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Post by lpearlmom » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:43 pm

Thanks for all the Anniversary wishes! We went to Tucson for a Night and it was really nice to get away.

Thanks oolala! I made it to day 100 as of yesterday. I’m not sure what I’ll do going forward but am definitely going to try stay more mindful with my drinking. I do notice my depression has been much better these past several weeks and am wondering if it’s related.

Thank you heather! Great to see your still around.

I’ve been a little distracted by the election but I’m so grateful for the way things went. I was glued to the couch/tv for days and my eating was all over the place. I couldn’t eat for the first few days than I ate & ate to make up for it. Things are settling down now and I’m trying to figure out the best approach for me going forward.

I’m just burned out on dieting and trying to control my weight. I’m actually dipping my toe into intuitive eating again because ultimately any rules around my eating just seem to eventually backfire on me. I’m continuing to weigh though just to make sure I know what I’m getting myself into. I think I’m near the top of my set point because my weight has been very stable regardless of my eating/exercising habits. Mostly I’m just learning to accept my body where it’s at and just stress less about my eating in general. I’m still exercising regularly which I’m really enjoying.

Everything else is going well. The girls are getting along. The dogs have calmed down. Doc & I are good. I do feel a little lost though. Trying to figure out what I want to focus on. I need something to get excited about. Searching, searching, always searching. My girls have the day off and I decided to take the day off too. Watching real housewives and snuggling with the dogs. Yup, sometimes we just need these days, right?

Okay off to catch up on everyone else’s thread!

Day 101.5 alcohol free (I’m having wine tonight.)
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Post by pinkhippie » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:49 am

Hi Linda!

Thanks for stopping by and updating us! Glad to hear you are doing well. I know what you mean about rules making rebellion happen. The only rules I can follow (or guidelines) are the ones that make me feel good and of course they have to be able to be changed or tossed if I am not feeling good.

I am glad you took the day off! Sounds wonderful. I am REALLY looking forward to Thanksgiving week this year for my break.

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Post by Jen1974 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:24 pm

I’ve been listening to IE stuff again too. I’m trying to learn from what went wrong when I did & see if I can incorporate some of what went right into my life!

Congrats on the 100 day AF & enjoy your wine tonight :D

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Post by April » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:27 pm

Linda - I have been scanning your thread as like you I have been on again, off again with fasting and then back to (my modified) NO S plan. I was literally in tears as I read your entry from Sept 15th (quoted at the end of reply) I just wanted to say thank you so much for baring your soul with this post. I cannot tell you how much I relate to every word. This was so eye opening for me. I need to refer back to this every time I feel led astray to try the next shiny object cleverly disguised as the end all be all weight loss tool. I am humbled by your honesty in your post, I don't know if I could ever share so openly. I look forward to following you in your journey back to food sanity. :D


"Well sunday I ended up eating ALL day like I couldn’t stop. I know it’s backlash from me trying to fast again last week & as I lay in bed last night with a stomachache I realized that i cannot do this one more day. I cannot diet for another moment. I have put so much time and energy into literally trying to make myself smaller for other ppl. Im so done. My body keeps coming back to the same weight. Clearly thats where im meant to be. Im certain that if I hadn’t been on so many extreme diets, my set point would be lower but i cant change the past.

Ive been dieting since i was 10 years old. Ive tried just about everything. When i was in high school it was not uncommon for me to limit myself to 800 calories a day. Can you imagine? Ive spent a huge chunk of my life centered around my weight. In fact, i think im kind of addicted to dieting. It’s a great distraction and it makes happiness seem so simple. Just reach a certain weight and your life will suddenly and magically become perfect. Well we all know that doesn’t work out. I wonder where i would be if i spent all that time and energy on something more meaningful. Im just done. Im putting down the sword In this losing battle.

I just want to eat normally. I want to follow my own advice in my tagline. Back to vanilla but with regular sized plates and no goal trying to lose weight. I just want consistency and a stable weight. I want food back in it’s normal place. I want to make sure i eat enough to get me through to the next meal but not so much that im not hungry for my next meal because thats sort of joyless. Im going to continue my exercising because i love how it makes me feel. If i miss a day its not the end of the world. Im just so tired of trying to fit into this narrow mold thats just a construct of societies impossible standards for women.

Well i guess it’s obvious ive been thinking a lot and ready for some sanity back in my life. I guess ive come full circle and back to the first place that ever gave me any sanity with my eating. It feels really good to have made the decision to stop trying to lose weight and just focus on having normal eating patterns. I dont think i ever want to skip a meal again.

I want to stick around but have to be honest. Sometimes when i read threads with weights posted or talk about weight loss especially when i know you all weigh less than me, it can be super triggering so if i skip some of your threads for awhile, please dont take it personally."
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Post by lpearlmom » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:03 am

Hippie, the word guidelines definitely has a better feel to it. Im so glad you’re going to be getting a little break. You certainly have earned it!

Jen, yes i think deep down i feel like IE is going to be the only way i will ever be able to truly make peace with food. It’s tough though because first you have to make peace with your body which is quite a feat in this fat phobic culture we live in. I am learning to approach it differently this time. Before i either tried to make it into the “hunger & fullness” diet which would backfire obviously. Or on the other end of the spectrum id just eat all the things all the time which felt horrible. Im taking a course now through the body love society and they teach how to listen to your body, your mind and your tastebuds together at the same time. So yeah your tastebuds may be screaming for greasy pizza but your body might be saying if i eat roo much pizza i feel lethargic and queasy. So your mind can use logic and decide to have pizza and a salad so your body and tastebuds are happy. It just makes a lot more sense the way im learning it now. Kind of cool.

April, thank you and im so so happy that post was helpful to you. Eating really isn’t supposed yo be that complicated and certainly shouldn’t be a source of pain. Yet for so many of us it has become that. Hopefully we can both find some peace along this journey.

Ive been reading about the importance of regular meals for eating disorder recovery. I dont have an eating disorder but my eating has definitely been disordered for many years so i think this can be helpful to me too. I have a lot of fear about food scarcity as my body is always wondering when the next famine (diet) will be. So im eating very regular meals and snacks and it’s really helped me to feel calm. I can feel myself able to focus on other things for the first time in awhile and it’s so nice. Part of ne feels a little lost as im not sure what to do with all this freed up time/energy but its a good problem to have.

Okay so tired. More later.
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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by Jen1974 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:46 pm

I’m loving hearing about where you are at!!

The Body Love Society sounds great!! Me too on IE was either a focus on hunger/fullness/gentle nutrition & felt like “gentle dieting” or only a focus on only what I wanted and felt like anarchy.

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Post by oolala53 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:25 pm

Contending with fat phobia while also being realistic about what is a smart way to eat for a true long health span can be tricky but the alternatives are no party, either, especially with such easy access to questionable refined foods. ( and every side cherry picks evidence, including this one!) But you deserve some peace with this.
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Post by lpearlmom » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:07 am

Thanks for the support Jen!

Oolala: we all have our own journeys. You do you and I will do ME. Thx!
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Post by oolala53 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:42 am

Not sure what you thought I was saying. If I wasn’t clear that I am happy for you and support this new path, I did a bad job.
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No worries! Btw, i sent you a pm.
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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by pinkhippie » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:25 pm

Linda, since you are looking more at IE, do you have any favorite IE books? I always try to incorporate the ideas of IE into my eating and I would be interested to hear if you have any favorite resources.

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Post by lpearlmom » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:19 pm

I like Christy Harrison, Isabel foxen duke, the body love society, rebecca stritchfield, Alison Rumsey and I think you already know about the F-it Diet.

I have to say as good as intuitive feeling feels after a long stint of dieting, I don’t think it’s really a good fit got me. A lot of it is good like having no good or bad foods, getting rid of body shame, an attempt to end weight discrimination & moving in a way that feels enjoyable. But after my little honeymoon phase, I realize (once again) how much I need some structure. I caved and weighed myself and am up over 5 lbs in just 3 weeks. I’m actually a little annoyed when I think about the fact that all these intuitive gurus telling us to surrender to the weight gain are
mostly made up of skinny white women.

Anyway, not sure where that leaves me. Honestly I think I just need a more relaxed version of NoS. I think the whole pass/fail aspect of it all just starts to feel like too much for me. It starts to feel like too much like a diet instead of just being the way I generally eat. I dunno, I guess the saga continues. 🤷‍♀️
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Post by pinkhippie » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:59 pm

Thanks Linda, I haven't heard of some of those authors. I am excited to check them out.

I know what you mean about full IE being a little too loose. THere are a lot of good things about IE we can take to No so I think. I don't like the pass-fail aspect of No S and I have stopped thinking of it that way. I try to follow my guidelines. I don't always follow them, but just having them really helps me. I totally agree about a more relaxed version of No S being worth looking into. Maybe No S with mods? Or not NO s just trying to eat 3 good meals a day? I don't know, everyone is different so I think different things work for different people.

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Post by Jen1974 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:42 pm

That lack of structure is what ended up being my downfall with IE too!! Too much arguing with myself over if I was hungry enough to eat or not & if so what to have that lead to decision fatigue. That’s where it feels most “intuitive” to me to have a rhythm to my days with 3 meals & a loose plan of what foods I want. I think all of us here are just trying to find peace with our relationship with food & eat in a way that feels good! I hope you (& the rest of us) all find it at some point :lol:

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Post by automatedeating » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:36 pm

You know, for whatever reason, I've never been much into the "green" or "red" days of NoS. I was just thinking about how some people really do well with that - looking for 80% compliance or something like that. I am just WAYYYYYY too SHADES of GRAY in my thinking to work that way. For me, there are like 50 shades between a green and a red day. LOL. I do sometimes put "fail" on some particular food choices, but even then, I'm not considering the whole day a fail..... just a few hours of choices or something along those lines. I guess that makes me less likely to succumb to the WTH effect, although it makes me also more loosey-goosey in how I follow NoS. Don't know if any of that ramble makes sense.
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Post by lpearlmom » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:25 pm

Wow you guys are great!

Auto, I can’t tell you how reassuring it is to hear that you approach this all with shades of gray. I think of you as like the NoS model student so that really helps me to feel a lot better. Do I see a book in your future 50 shades of Nos? 😆

Hippie: it sounds like you are similarly relaxed . Boy, maybe I’ve just been too strict with myself. No wonder I want to rebel.

Jen: Actually I saw you say on someone else’s thread that NoS is an act of self-care and something about that really clicked for me. I swear there’s been this eternal battle in my head going “if you’re against diets, how can you justify being on an eating plan with rules?” Even though when I stick to NoS I feel great, I had a lot of trouble reconciling that with my feminist beliefs. But yes I do feel better when I eat in a regular way, in amounts that doesn’t leave me feeling too stuff and allows me to be hungry enough for my next meal so I can truly enjoy it. And darn it it also feels good to be able to fit into my jeans. Um, duh Linda, that is self-care. 💡

Omygosh, why do I have to always overthink things? 🤦🏼‍♀️😊
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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by pinkhippie » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:34 am

LOL 50 shades of No S! :D I would read that!

I didn't start out relaxed and I think that is why I couldn't stick with No S. I remember trying this out in my early thirties and being totally strict and pass-fail. I couldn't keep it up and I left the board. I think I was also nursing at the time which made it even more ridiculous to try. I was HUNGRY. Now if I was in a similar situation I would build in nursing snacks and be OK with it.

I agree, that so many members here have really helped me realize its not about how strict you are, but about how consistent you are over months and years that really makes the difference.

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Post by lpearlmom » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:35 am

Oh boy, yes nursing definitely requires snacks! Yeah, i think i need to calm down my black and white thinking a bit.


Omg, we need to get out of the house! We are turning into zombies i swear. Im so happy we’re going to go to Sedona Tuesday. The house is beautiful and the girls each have their own rooms and bathrooms. Its on a couple acres and has a roof top deck so we can look at the red rocks and stars. I just found out they dont have a stove though so we will have to get creative with the grill and slow cooker!

Anyway it should be fun! Just wish my mom could be with us. Hurry vaccine!
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Post by automatedeating » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:50 pm

Hope you have so much fun in Sedona!!! Sounds wonderful, although it is sad that your mom can't be with you.
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Post by alene1 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:33 pm

Oh, I am jealous that you're going to Sedona! It is such a beautiful place. The place you're staying sounds so amazing. Enjoy! It is very challenging to find just the right way of eating that makes you feel good body and mind. You will get there!

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Post by Jen1974 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:39 pm

Sedona sounds amazing!! I hope your crew has so much fun!!!!

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Post by April » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:00 pm

Have fun on your trip to Sedona. Now I have that song stuck in my head from a country artist I can't think of the name of! Yes we all need to get out of the house walking outside has been a lifesaver during these past 6 months!
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Post by pinkhippie » Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:38 am

Wow! I will join in the chorus of Sedona sounds amazing! Have fun, that sounds wonderful and hopefully relaxing. I am sorry you can' t have your mom with you though.

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From our stargazing deck. Couldn’t make it straight!

Thank you ladies! ( April, I don’t know that song I don’t think. )

It really is beautiful up here and SO nice to have a change of scenery! When I heard the girls running around in excitement when we got here, I almost cried. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen them this energized.

Now I understand why this place has no stove. It’s really a b&b connected to the owners main house, but completely separate too. They can’t rent it to more than one family right now and they can’t come in and serve breakfast like the used to do they just rent it out as one big house. Each room is a suite with a big bathroom, fireplace, mini fridge, coffee machine etc and the common area has tables, a counter , piano and bbq outside where guests would gather to be served breakfast.

Anyway, it’s pretty fun. Doc & I went on a beautiful hike yesterday and the girls stayed back to do schoolwork. This morning they’re joining us for hike 2 and then we will come back and start cooking. Today is our proposalversary too! 😁
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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by automatedeating » Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:28 pm

proposalversary!!! :-)
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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by pinkhippie » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:27 pm

Looks like a beautiful place! I hope you enjoyed your proposalversery! That is neat that you celebrate that. :)

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