Everyday Systems

on the drinking/glass ceiling page you mentioned no mixed drinks. So my question, does the two drink minimum only pertain to beer and wine and not to mixed drinks, like say a martini or cocktail? thank you

I'm pretty sure that the glass ceiling rule applies to all drinks, but that the idea is that on N days you don't have any drinks with sugar added. So martinis should be as fine as beer or wine, as long as they're not fruity or chocolate-y martinis.

Julie

I had to read the glass ceiling page 3 times to find what you're talking about -- or at least what I think you're talking about.

Conversely, when you're starting out at least, I would avoid mixed drinks that you mix yourself. The mix is camouflage. With a dash of cranberry juice you can bypass the shame of drinking a big glass of vodka. Shame is your friend. Don't do that to shame!

My interpretation of this is to avoid drinks you mix yourself when you can use a splash of mixer to camouflage a lot of liquor -- when you can easily get two drinks worth of liquor in one drink. I don't think it's the fruity, sugary stuff that's an issue here -- it's the liquor.

The "no mixed drinks" sub-rule was important for me up front because mixed drinks were the proximate cause of me hitting "rock bottom" and motivated me to start practicing glass ceiling.

At this point, having very successfully practiced glass ceiling for several years without a single major failure, I don't worry about them anymore. I'm also not particularly crazy about mixed drinks (except martini's, which paradoxically, are so alcoholic that it's almost a misnomer to call them mixed), so it's not a huge issue for me. But I do think the rationale I give on the page is a sound one if you're just starting out.

If mixed drinks aren't a problem for you, and you particularly relish them, by all means feel free to modify the glass ceiling rule to suit your situation. Though as thtrchic points out, what you mix in most mixed drinks tends to be rather sweet, so they might represent a No-s violation even if they're OK by your version of glass ceiling.

Reinhard

milczar wrote:on the drinking/glass ceiling page you mentioned no mixed drinks. So my question, does the two drink minimum only pertain to beer and wine and not to mixed drinks, like say a martini or cocktail? thank you

I use the "DMV Definition" http://www2.oprah.com/tows/slide/200504 ... _201.jhtml

If I have a martini, I have one in a standard (not huge martini bar) cocktail glass.

Most mixed drinks are S drinks because of the sugar content to me.

So basically a drink is a glass of wine, a drink containing a jigger of alcohol or a 12 oz beer in my book.

I'm strict with myself about this. If I can't stick, I have to go to rehab. Let me say that because of that, I'm not particularly tempted.