Fresh orange juice or fruit juice

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Sparkle1944
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Fresh orange juice or fruit juice

Post by Sparkle1944 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:43 pm

Hi can you have fresh squeezed juices on no s ..usually 1 glass per day?

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Whosonfirst
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Re: Fresh orange juice or fruit juice

Post by Whosonfirst » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:35 pm

I don't see why not. I usually have a small glass at breakfast. It's not a sugar loaded drink like soda or a Starbucks triple-mocha latte. It's true fruits have natural sugar. Reinhard says it's okay to have up to two alcoholic drinks a day, and I don't believe they violate the rules. Liquor and wine probably have as much or more sugar than a glass of orange juice. Chugging several glasses a day is probably not following the rules.

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Re: Fresh orange juice or fruit juice

Post by oolala53 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:59 pm

There's no real rule on this, although Reinhard does recommend trying squeezing your own at least once just to see how much fruit you go through. He doesn't discuss the topic of satiety, but most liquids for most people do not deliver satiety along with their calories, except for milk. I humbly recommend you think of water at your meals for thirst and juice as an extra zing.

Never forget that what's "allowed" and what gives you the benefits you desire may not be the same thing. Long term weight losers on just about any program will adjust over a period of a few years, and sometimes again later as needs change.
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Re: Fresh orange juice or fruit juice

Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:04 pm

I drink 3-4 cups of tea or coffee with full fat milk and sugar everyday, I've had kombucha, Milk, and juice, Even Starbucks all on No S. I actually find drinks pretty filling and satisfying in their own way, I just try not to over do it and not have more than a few cups a day but otherwise I don't sweat it because I'm not living without them entirely

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Re: Fresh orange juice or fruit juice

Post by automatedeating » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:00 am

Never forget that what's "allowed" and what gives you the benefits you desire may not be the same thing. Long term weight losers on just about any program will adjust over a period of a few years, and sometimes again later as needs change.
This.

Oh, and I'm one of the milk drinkers in a pinch (of hunger, that is). I've actually never had a fail when I decided to have a nice glass of milk to tide me over.
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Re: Fresh orange juice or fruit juice

Post by margot17 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:01 am

Alcoholics may be full of calories but not of sugars. I know, I was surprised too to find out. I'm talking of course of the dry type. There's a variance, beers can vary a lot depending on the manifacturer but are generally more on the high side of the spectrum, while dry drinks with high alcohol content like gin, vodka, tequila and whisky are on the low side, wine is somewhere in the middle. One of the Keto Dudes (podcast, they are a point of reference in the keto community)) stayed for months in a regime of OMAD plus whisky and it never threw him out of keto (he didn't lose weight with it though, of course).

I think fruit juices are more loaded in sugars than sodas, if that's even possible, I would leave them eventually to S-days. I have 2 pressed oranges sometimes in Nos days, which amount to less than half a glass of juice, and I haven't noticed any adverse effect, but I have now created for me a mental category of 'light sugars' and they are in that category, which requires moderation and added fibers. Drinking the juice is not really like eating the fruit because removing the fibers of the fruit makes it all yummy but more problematic for the body to deal with. It is fructose, which doesn't raise insulin, and shouldn't therefore make you gain weight, and yet it does, and also harms the body in various complex ways that resemble the way that alcohol does. In moderation and with fibers it's very fine.
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Re: Fresh orange juice or fruit juice

Post by Staff Assistant III » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:08 am

I don’t do any drinks between meals except water, seltzer water and hot tea. I got away from any sugar ( real or fake) in coffee or tea years ago. It’s much easier to drink a huge amount of sugar than it is to eat it.

I know it’s “allowed”. But as was stated above, what’s allowed is not always what’s optimal. If I were a milk drinker, I would pick that in an emergency over fruit juice. I’ve read way too much about the potential effects of fructose.
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