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wosnes

This is my first S weekend and the 4th of July was on Thur. My eating has been ok but I love sweets so I had 2 pc of cake on Thu, 2 servings of ice cream yesterday(it was 94!) and donuts today(Sun). I haven't had very satisfying food today but I still feel terrible about this! The book says the fir...

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One of the lessons I took away from that book (in addition to all you mentioned) is that the goal isn't to get kids to like all foods, but to accept eating foods without complaint. They're not going to like everything, not everything will be a favorite, but they will eat (nearly) everything they are...

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jw wrote:It's a trap because it seems like it is effective -- until it isn't! I am looking for a diet I won't go "off."!

One of the things I like about No-S is that what you do to lose the weight is what you do to maintain the weight loss.

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Welcome!

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So if I skip a meal and eat at, say, 11 and 6 instead of 9, 2 and 7, then I think I might untrain my stomach. I don't think your stomach is trained to eat at any time; it's your brain that's trained to eat at specific times. I find it more difficult to eat three meals than two. I don't consider hav...

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Welcome jw! You should have taken the S days because you cannot fail on an S day.

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Also, another question...does peanut butter and jam toast count as a sweet? I had it for breakfast. It doesn't for me. However, you have to look at how much you're using. If you use a lot, a tablespoon or more per slice of toast, it could be considered a sweet. If you use less than that, it's not a...

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noni wrote:"I despise the taste of artificial sweeteners in almost any other product or food though. Don't know why diet soda is different for me."

I think the bubbles might be a deterrent

They aren't for me. I won't buy a product with AS.

wosnes

Back to the wine (or beer). Earlier this week Elise at Simply Recipes posted a recipe for PanachÃ© (aka Shandy) . A couple of people wrote in the comments that mixing 7-Up or Sprite with wine was popular where they live. No 7-Up or Sprite in the house, but I still had ginger ale. So I tried it -- ha...

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Fasting is probably not something that would be recommended by any medical doctor, unless you were under their supervision. There are rare (which is why you had to find them) people who obviously can thrive on fasting by themselves, but the majority of people would suffer from a binge eating backla...

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Another idea is just not to keep them in the house except on S days or buy smaller bags. No one needs to randomly snack on them.

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I wonder how this would taste cold? If I were to make it in the morning and then it chill all day...? I think the texture would be off. I knew I wasn't going to save the leftovers and had a little with my dinner (a leftover buffet). I didn't reheat them and they were a little gummy. I think this is...

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Blithe Morning wrote:I've found that I can be satisfied with less of a wholesome food than its processed counterpart. However, the wholesomeness of the food does not intrinsically limit the portion. I rely on the plate for that.

You said exactly what I was trying to say.

wosnes

Occasionally someone will mention that they wish we'd share favorite recipes. So I'm sharing a new favorite. I saw this recipe mentioned yesterday in the comments at a blog. Including the prep time, this One-Pan Pasta which appeared in the June, 2013 issue of Martha Stewart Living takes less than 30...

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I think the tendency among snackers is to ignore any evidence to the contrary, since the Metabolism Myth is so ingrained. And, what a fun myth to have ingrained! You can eat all the time. No wonder people are hesitant to give that one up. The metabolism myth has to be right up there with the lipid ...

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I've found it to be partly true that I'll eat less of foods I prepare from scratch than the prepared version of the same foods. The two examples that come to mind are bread and macaroni and cheese. I make my own bread. I eat less of it than squishy white bread, rolls or the rolls that come in a tube...

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Sweeteners do not make me crave sweets anymore than full blown sugar. I crave sugar regardless. Replacing sugar with Stevia doesn't help my sugar cravings either. The Stevia product was marketed as another miracle binge-stopper. Just make your baked goods with Stevia and you will only want one tiny...

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I know that over several years there have been links to probably a half dozen sources that promote eating three meals and no snacking or snacking only rarely.

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How SAD that many people think and act that way about food. It's so unnecessary.

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i think a bunch of people on here, including myself include friday evenings as part of the S days... i think keeping moderation in mind throughout the week, including S days is what your main focus should be... S days were never intended to be free-for-all's.. enjoy them, but just be moderate :) go...

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My opinion is that there are only a few S days when it's okay to go wild; not every weekend. I think the only time to go wild are the major holidays or special occasions. I rarely go wild on the summer holidays or New Year's. So for me, it's Thanksgiving and Christmas. Weekend S days are a time to r...

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The milk is okay, but the cucumbers and peppers count as a snack. A quick rule of thumb is that if you chew it, it's a snack. Milk, coffee, tea, juices and any other beverage that's not overly sweet is okay between meals. Smoothies generally aren't okay because they include chewable foods that are b...

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Obesity, of itself, being called a disease just sounds like another politically correct term. To overcome obesity/overweightness sure feels like will power to me. Every day except an S day. And even then I'm hoping to exercise a little of that in the near future on S days. I'd love it to come natur...

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I think you can call what it takes to lose weight will power - or habit building.

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Bssh wrote:Inspired by oolala's post I might indulge in some scones, clotted cream and jam this weekend

I think I'm going to have to make some, too.

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I'm now hungry for scones! I have an article from Prevention magazine that is about 20 years old called "How in the World to Stay Slim." It's about the eating and exercise habits of people around the world who are slimmer than we are (or were slimmer than we are). The author looked at people and the...

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Well, the soup I had was Progressive Chicken Pot Pie style soup. It was pretty substantial. I'm finding that I need enough protein (oolala, I think the "palm of my hand analogy" is good, I try to use it myself) otherwise I'll be ready to eat my shoes by the time dinnertime rolls around. Also that e...

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. Christine I gotta say a can of soup and an apple would not be enough for me for lunch, unless that soup had some BIG chunks of food I could chew in it. I tend to have a source of protein at lunch and dinner that is equivalent in volume to the palm of my hand. And I'd have some nut butter with tha...

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Interesting article, of course; it makes sense. I do have a problem with this, though: " [Elisa] Ziedâ€™s rule: Eat when youâ€™re hungry, stop when youâ€™re satisfied, and plan ahead." This person apparently has not had any eating issues. Are my eyes open? I'm hungry. Am I leaning back on the couch...

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@wosnes, hope you're feeling better today! Say, how did you come up with yogurt and heavy cream? Sounds delicious! Do you just mix it half and half? @oolala53, Yes, I agree, I can divert myself away from virtual hunger if I really keep paying attention. Physical hunger, well, I have a little harder...

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I have a child and husband and houseguests at various times and I manage to IF. There are so many variations of IF that I manage to find something that suits. Most of the time it's a 24 hour fast like 5:2 or Eat Stop Eat but I often do shorter fasts when I have houseguests or skip a meal or not fas...

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But if IF cannot be implemented when other people are involved... well, WADR, that seems problematic. However, I have had some times when I lost my appetite for 24 hours and even 36. But I was always spending almost all my time alone. In any case, I continue to be intrigued. I don't think that it c...

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I was feeling a little under the weather yesterday and my main source of nourishment was ginger ale and soda crackers. I'm feeling better this morning and was actually hungry for breakfast. I had some berries and yogurt cream (mixture of yogurt and heavy cream with some sweetener of choice -- honey,...

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From the Today Show: Two Meals a Day Better than Grazing

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It doesn't appear that readers of The Atlantic were very fond of this article. I've been avoiding processed foods longer than I've been following No-S. My avoidance of processed foods had nothing to do with weight loss, but was an instruction from my cardiologist to reduce sodium in my diet. There w...

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Yes, I did 2x24 hour fasts whilst in weightloss mode then once I lost all my excess weight I became more flexible with my fasting pattern (because I still want the health benefits of giving digestion a break and allowing the body to "repair" itself). Earlier this year I posted a link to an article ...

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I've found that thinking about food makes me want food, but it's not hunger. Like oolala, I've also found that real hunger will go away.

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Also speculated today that I may be so hungry between meals because they are spaced out pretty far. Breakfast before 6:30, lunch as close to 12 as I can get, and dinner at about 6 (sometimes later). Or is that normal but I just don't know it yet? :? If I eat breakfast it's around 7:00 and it's not ...

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Bssh wrote:After all, I've lost more than 68 lbs now.

Good for you!

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Blithe Morning & Wosnes - Yip!!! Perfection is not for mere mortals like us. However it is really hard not to let perfectionism ruin a great effort. I don't think I have the perfectionist gene. I do get frustrated sometimes when I can't do something the way I want to do it. This is usually when fol...

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So hereâ€™s what Iâ€™ve done to get myself back on track No S wise. Iâ€™ve already lost about ten pounds in the last month, give or take what moment I weigh! Lots to go, but I definitely feel better physically and more in control of myself and I do trust the system and I think with my double Habitc...

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Blithe Morning wrote:Perfection is overrated.

So true!

wosnes

That said, 3.5 glasses is a lot of wine, more than you should be having. You might want to try glass ceiling, where you limit yourself to 2 drinks a day. Yes, it is more than I should have, so Glass Ceiling is what I was thinking. I showed my husband the web page about Glass Ceiling, who's an avowe...

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Christine wrote:.
@Nicest: Interesting article! But they don't have Twinkies anymore so I can't go on that diet!!!

They should be coming back! I know the bakery here is reopening soon and will be making most of the standard products.

wosnes

Haha, that's funny! Reminds me of Excedrin for Migraines. Exact same ingredients as regular Excedrin. This is off topic, but some years ago I was having trouble with TMJ. I found the best meds for it were one regular aspirin, one regular acetaminophen, one regular ibuprofen and a cup of coffee. Wor...

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Anoulie wrote: If you look at my HabitCal, you'll find clusters of red days, hardly ever individual ones. And yeah, I should probably stop using it. Maybe just make a small note in my planner instead.

Why make notes of mistakes at all? Do you need the reminder? Seems like you're beating yourself up enough.

wosnes

I have a feeling that what I'm going to suggest won't be helpful because it's too simplistic: Take success and failure out of the equation and concentrate on establishing the habits without any mods at all. Concentrate on one meal at a time and one day at a time. If you slip up, acknowledge it and m...

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Let me clarify: I'm not necessarily speaking about breakfast foods being promoted, but the meal as the most important meal of the day. If the meal is being promoted, then it follows that the foods people would eat at that meal would be promoted. Point is, when you see diet advice, you have to ask y...

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Well folks since I first made this post, I developed a corn allergy and also just dxd with Lyme disease. So corn is in Everything!! I dropped 12 pounds in a hurry. Also doxycycline kills appetite so I'm good on the diet front for now. Sigh Wow, sorry to learn that. In The Omnivore's Dilemma Michael...

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This is just anecdotal in my dealings with men, but I think men "appear" to burn calories better than women and lose weight faster than women simply because they don't obsess as much about food, they eat real food, and don't think about snacking that much. I'll agree that most men don't obsess abou...

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Sounds like OA went from sensible to diety? Like our entire culture over the past few decades. That is so true! We overreact to everything it seems. I am so sick of hearing about having to stoke the metabolism by snacking every 3 hours. The other day I thought that if you're snacking and "stoking t...

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Let me clarify: I'm not necessarily speaking about breakfast foods being promoted, but the meal as the most important meal of the day. If the meal is being promoted, then it follows that the foods people would eat at that meal would be promoted.

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Incidentally, a lot of the people who try to tell you that being hungry is a bad thing and something that Must Be Dealt With Right Now sell snack foods for a living (or have a business relationship with someone who does). I wonder why someone who makes money when you buy snack foods might want you ...

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I'm going to make yet another radical suggestion: forget the guilt. So you had a wild S day or two (or even an N day). So what? Try not to make the next one so wild. That's it.

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The author of that article is doing a series of articles on that site about weight loss. The second quote comes from an article called Balance or Perish , about the necessity of balancing carbs, fat and protein in the diet. Though it's not quite what he was talking about, today I came across two men...

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I'm going to make a radical suggestion: just follow No-S and don't worry about what you eat. Don't weigh, either, if you don't want to weigh. You may have to make some adjustments to your meals so you're not getting hungry soon after meals, but other than that: No snacks, no sweets, no seconds, exce...

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No snacks, no sweets, no seconds -- except for S days (without modifications).

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I'm going to suggest that you add some fat to your meals. Fat aids substantially in satiety and keeping hunger at bay. Up above emmay suggested avocado, nuts, and olive oil. There's also olives, seeds, and butter. You could also add fat in the form of full fat dairy products. I would have sauteed th...

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I think a lot of people gain initially because they've been restricting previously. As difficult as it is, I think you just have to follow the habits and give it time. Weight loss is typically not quick on No-S. Also, if you've been a chronic dieter it may take time for your body to stop behaving as...

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I've waited a year for my weekends to simmer down but it's not happening. I feel more frustrated with myself then guilty that I can't control this eating monster. Yesterday, I've decided (for future S days) to eat the three meals with some dessert afterwards and no snacking to ruin those meals. I'm...

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My S days are nowadays more like Helenaz. I really enjoy 3 full meals at the weekend (and because we eat out alot at the weekend, they are full) but the big difference from NoS days are that lunch and dinner both tend to be followed by a yummy dessert. I don't like grazing anymore because I then fe...

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This comes from a much longer article titled Why One Calorie For Her Is Half a Calorie For Him , dealing with why it's harder for women to lose weight than it is for men. CHRONIC DIETER SYNDROME. Women have a propensity for recurrent dieting. Each consecutive diet cycle, especially one low in fat an...

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I remember him saying that he has a major sweet tooth and this was a way to indulge the sweet tooth without going overboard every day.

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How in the world do you accept your body the way it is when you know it should be different? One of the definitions of acceptance implies approval, but all acceptance really means is "this is the way things are." It's acknowledgement of the conditions. It doesn't mean that you agree with or like th...

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I was watching Jeopardy! this evening (I like seeing how much I know). Alex Trebek made a comment on one of the contestant's "unusual" diet. He eats sensibly six days a week and on Saturday eats whatever he wants (sounded like an S day gone wild). In two years he lost 25 pounds. There was no mention...

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Why not follow this eating plan with a goal of staying at 175 or less or just not gaining? To me a goal of staying at 175 means you'll want to gain if you lose weight.

I agree with you that 175 isn't an ideal weight for your height, but it's better than weighing more.

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Christine wrote:wosnes: If I just have a bowl of oatmeal (or anything else), I just have the bowl. If I'm having oatmeal, toast and fruit, the bowl goes on a plate along with the toast and fruit.

OK. I was wondering about a soup & sandwich lunch; guess that would be the same?

The short answer: yes.

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I'd consider myself a moderator.

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I don't think the low-fat phase has passed at all, but I'm not sure if weight or health is the primary issue for most folks. I still see a lot of recipes that call for reduced- or fat-free products.

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I read about the 13 virtues over 20 years ago, but had forgotten about them. I did a little searching and found that Franklin started with temperance because he felt it was the virtue that would develop the self-discipline needed to master the remaining 12 virtues. Franklin admitted he was never abl...

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Congratulations! This is the sanest way to lose weight or maintain weight and eat for life.

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I think both men missed something: it's not only what people eat but what they DON'T eat that is important. Populations that eat a so-called Western diet -- generally defined as a diet consisting of lots of processed foods and meat, lots of added fat and sugar, lots of refined grains, lots of every ...

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I agree that the message to "keep stoking the fire" isn't homespun wisdom. It's a health claim and I'm not sure who put it out there first. I was looking for something else today and found this: â€œThe real reason for health claims is well established: health claims sell food products. Marion Nestle

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McDougal came across as a prejudiced, know-it-all, judgmental, opiniated, uncaring and rude medical doctor, with little understanding of the basic personal dynamics of obese people. Wow, I really enjoyed listening to that! Dr. McDougall was contentious, confrontational and personally insulting. You...

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I clicked on the link and listened to the podcast but it was mostly a discussion of a high fat low carb book. I was interested in hearing Dr McDoougall since I did his program for several years but never did find him on the podcast. What did I do wrong? If you scroll down to 686 there's a picture o...

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You don't need to resort to snacking simply because you're hungry. Being hungry doesn't mean you have to eat. Though we've been trained to act as if it is, hunger is NOT an emergency . I've found that I can feel hungry, but usually in a few minutes that feeling passes. IMO this attitude is largely ...

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Thanks, everyone. I'm having a little bit of a hard time accepting how little I need, but I'll either get there or make peace with eating a bit more than I need. Glad to hear your report. I remember years ago reading that women (maybe all people?) needed to cut calorie consumption as they aged. My f...

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Thanks for posting. I think the more we long-termers can post about the realities of success with NoS, in all its shades and variations, the more we encourage each other AND the newbies. I also think it is helpful for all of us women of a certain age (or beyond a certain age :wink: ) to post about ...

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I've been here for over six years and I'm still losing weight here and there. Yesterday was my annual doctor's appointment so I had my yearly weigh-in. Down 4 pounds from last year! Last year I was down some, too, but I can't remember how much. I thought I'd posted it here, but when I searched yeste...

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Minkymoo wrote:I loved this post, what a lot of insightful points both in the article and in your comment. Food for thought!

Agreed.

wosnes

You don't need to resort to snacking simply because you're hungry. Being hungry doesn't mean you have to eat. Though we've been trained to act as if it is, hunger is NOT an emergency . I've found that I can feel hungry, but usually in a few minutes that feeling passes. In Food Matters Mark Bittman w...

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I don't think exercise helps in weight loss nearly as much as we've been lead to believe it does. When you look at how many calories are burned hourly doing various exercises or how many hours you'd need to exercise to burn off a treat, it's impact seems pretty negligible. It does have many other be...

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Every now and then I have a day like this. It causes Peggy Lee's song to go though my head, "Is that all there is?" I just bite the bullet and keep the day green, because if I don't it will be a food orgy. I do have red days now and then, a nibble here a there when packing lunches, making dinner et...

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I would caution against eating a large lunch in case dinner is late. Eat your normal meal. If dinner is delayed or you get hungry, you can have a glass of milk or juice. Then try to eat a normal dinner whenever you have it.

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I voted to stick to vanilla No-S and no mods. It's not unusual to not lose or maybe gain a little initially.

You might want to look at what and how much you're eating. I think there's a tendency to load up plates to prevent being hungry between meals. You might need to take smaller portions.

wosnes

Yes. It is possible to lose weight without exercise. I used to have a neighbor who couldn't exercise as the result of an injury and she lost about 100 pounds through diet alone.

While I've done the (very) occasional exercise program, the only exercise I've ever done consistently is walking.

wosnes

Or, just eat the normal amount and don't be so full. Give yourself a chance to get used to that feeling. It may be a perfectly normal one we misinterpret as a need for food when it's not, just as we may have felt any little twinge or impulse to eat communicated a real need. Unlikely. When this happ...

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That's exactly what happens to me. It will last one to 2 days and then ill be fine. Also been happening with me every now and then since I started dieting. Which is why I started no s in the first to hopefully help overcome this I don't think this is necessarily something to overcome; more somethin...

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I've had this happen now and again for my whole life. I never know why it happens because there's never been anything unusual going on with my diet before it happens. I could see it if I'd been eating far less than usual in the preceding days, if I'd been sick or if I changed what I was eating -- bu...

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One thing about No-S, unless you've been snacking or eating enough sweets for their absence to make a huge difference, it's not a quick weight loss program. Unlike most other programs it is sustainable.

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I still don't find takeout disgusting. It depends on the takeout. I have takeout occasionally and often it's something I think I should feel guilty about eating! Takeout is usually a splurge for me; not something I'd want to do everyday. On the other hand, last week I had a great salad with some gr...

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oolala53 wrote:
Wish my library had Entre Nous.

I sampled Entre Nous on my kindle after seeing it mentioned. In short order I bought it. There is a section on food and another on parties. Most of it deals with other parts of life, but I like it.

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One of the reviewers of Chic & Slim recommended Entre Nous by Debra Ollivier. It doesn't look like it's specifically about eating habits, but it does look interesting.

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Over the weekend I bought a copy of the June issue of More magazine. There were several articles I wanted to read, including one called "The Champs-Elysees Diet." Recently the editors of More spent some time in Paris. When they were back in NY, they were talking about how slim the 40+ women in Franc...

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leafy_greens wrote:I read from the reviews that the French Women book was condescending? I hope not because I appreciated the self-deprecation of the French Kids book.

It's been a long time since I read it, but I don't remember feeling it was condescending.

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Does anyone know of any other similar books that discuss the French way of eating? Looking for a more adult perspective. Probably the closest thing would be French Women Don't Get Fat i by Mireille Guiliano or the Chic & Slim books by Anne Barone. The web sites might help you see if one or the othe...

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Welcome back!

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I think as close as I've gotten to an energy bar is the occasional Lara bar. Or maybe a granola bar. I haven't had one of those in years and probably wouldn't be able to stand the taste of them now -- just like a lot of other things. Not only does real food rock, it spoils you for the crappy food.

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That just sounds so freeing to be able to be okay about just weighing once a year and not worrying about the scale all the time. I would love to get to that place. I have CHF and am supposed to weigh daily to keep track of water weight gain and adjust medication accordingly. I don't need the scale ...

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I've also found that snacking ruins my appetite. I've found that if I feel hungry between meals, that feeling will last for a few minutes, then go away.

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