Everyday Systems

lbb (Liz)

Hi, oolala. I haven't YET thrown them out (they are in my garage for the library/thrifttown). But I just don't need them. I did keep the more mental "diet" books...about the brain and all. I just can't go back to the others. I think those authors who have gotten so casual about what they eat maybe a...

lbb (Liz)

Hi, Lara: I like your S day rules. I'm in the middle of one of the wildest S days I've had. I'm trying not to judge. The important thing is, I'm learning about myself and that I have this compulsive need to always have something in my mouth, be it crystal light, diet soda, gum, or food. So on an S d...

lbb (Liz)

Isn't it great you can go out to lunch and dinner and be "normal"? And not order a special meal...then go to your car and eat "for reals" (my experiences).
Way to go. I LOVE a good fry...in moderation!

lbb (Liz)

Friday: Success This is becoming more habitual, though I won't lie and say it's not tempting to take a bite here/there. But the longer time goes on, it's less easy to do so. And, I always think in my head, "is it worth it" and "then what?". I feel best doing this for now. For now. One day at a time....

lbb (Liz)

This is wonderful and so needed to be heard by all~
In life, it's about enjoying the moment, being present, being at peace with ourselves, and enjoying others. If we don't have that, who really cares?
A few more pounds for a more beautiful life? Absolutely.
Great work.

lbb (Liz)

I plead with you to either follow No-S to get back to "normal" or to seek some professional help. You are only 16! When I was 13, I went down the slippery slope of losing weight. Controlling food. Fearing food. Over-exercsiing...all into full-blown anorexia. With professional help, I got back to "no...

lbb (Liz)

SophiaLara: I like what you said about rewarding ourselves by going into a full-blown binge. I do that all that time! It's not beating myself, it's indulgence.
Thanks for the reminder.

lbb (Liz)

ESPECIALLY EASTER CANDY! My fave.
We have lots of events this weekend including Easter candy.
YIKES!
Cadbury how I love thee

lbb (Liz)

You failed. Mark it and move on.
Don't dwell on it.
I think it's easier to fail again the next time when we are hard on ourselves!
You can do this!

lbb (Liz)

I completely relate to you on two accounts, NoSRocks. Really. So I started up (re-started) NOS in January with the mod of a treat/day. Especially because I wasn't trying to totally lose weight, but just moderate myself. I would count calories, too. So I could justify an entire chocolate bar/night. A...

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Sinnie: If this helps you grasp the control back after wild bingeing, then do what works! "Anything but binging, that's the ultimate worst." Agreed. If this helps, great. I just know for ME that after YEARS of calorie counting everysinglething, it would backfire because I'd go over and then just "sc...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks Snapdragon and oolala! oolala: You are right. It is SOOO sad the ongoing battle of eating disorders. Most women in the Center with me were "repeats". Their POOR families (and selves!). It's a SELFISH b*tch of a disorder. Actually, after release, I did some outpatient and there was a support g...

lbb (Liz)

Thursday Success! Was actually quite hungry today, but put off "failing". Oats, breakfast. Body Pump class I seriously was starving by 11am, but put my mind elsewhere and got distracted. Just loaded up on lunch. Sprouted bread, hummus, laf cow Spinach salad with chicken, feta, veggies Dinner, 8pm St...

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Thanks, all for your comments and helpful suggestions. Really this is such a wise and informative group. I will try the tea method. I do love fizz and especially with my allergies starting up, the fizz helps clear my throat/sinuses. WEIRD, huh? I need to not buy the gum. It's just a "thing" I have. ...

lbb (Liz)

KL: I so understand getting obsessed with the heart rate monitor! I bought one ($100!!) about two years ago and used it obsessively. I tried so hard to know exactly what I burned and to then eat exactly that, or less. It took over my life! Also, I also agree in the simplicity of the foods helping by...

lbb (Liz)

"One of the things that depletes our self regulation is decision making. So if you already have decided that you are not going to snack/eat sweets or have seconds, then that leaves you with just that much more will power for resisting the urge to indulge." from NoSnacker. I love this because it remi...

lbb (Liz)

Especially in the beginning I would err to the side of loading your plate. You have no idea how much food you take in when you snack all day. But when it's one plate, that's it. I have really been one to load up at each meal. It's not hurting me at all, but I have noticed I'm getting more full now q...

lbb (Liz)

Wednesday: Green B: Oats L: Spinach salad, black beans, veggies, feta, Flat wrap with turkey, laughing cow cheese, hummus D: White bean chicken chili. I added a little avocado and fritos. This is a yummy healthy soup (besides what you add). LOVE this recipe. E: Yoga class Felt good today, but man I'...

lbb (Liz)

I love when I'm choosing exercise because I WANT to, not because I need to burn off last night's binge or something. I've been down that road of black/white exercise. These days it just feels good to MOVE and I find my mental health so much better the rest of the day. But I need to keep in check not...

lbb (Liz)

Great job resisting.
Push the negative voice aside. It never helps. You will not see physical differences for awhile, but isn't your mental state so much better?
And, the other physical benefits of not feeling ill from food?
Like KL said, just take it one meal at a time.

lbb (Liz)

Yes, like food, I now have USED caffeine and diet drinks. But haven't felt able to tackle that addiction yet. But I'm ready. More than anything, I want to WANT it. I feel like it's SO ingrained as a habit for me, to ALWAYS drink it, that it's not special. The same way I just put off eating lunch and...

lbb (Liz)

KL: great thought about the Diet Soda. I really am a "in the house I have no limit" kind of person. So, last night I finished off the last of Diet Cokes. No joke, friends. It has become such an addiction to the point of always having to have that, or some sort of Diet drink in my mouth at all times....

lbb (Liz)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY! DEFINITE cause for an S!!!

lbb (Liz)

I totally get it. My kids come in all the time and snitch off my plate. YIKES!
Usually, though it's "Mom food" and they don't care for it!
But it's tough. Food issues/hoarding/saving for me.
Keep up the great work!

lbb (Liz)

Yes, oolala! Great side affect right! Can't stand as much food!

lbb (Liz)

Tuesday: Green success b: oats, pb, banana l: flat wrap, chicken meatballs, hummus, cheese, spinach salad d: broccoli chick casserole leftovers (last night, thankfully), toast with cheese, hummus, turkey REALLY hungry today because of body pump again at the gym. a new release! worked hard and tried ...

lbb (Liz)

I agree with Blithe Morning. I love this quote by William Morris, "Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful or believe to be beautiful." It's hard not to live in the "just-in-case" mode, but really and truly I've never given something away, really, and looked back. But I have ke...

lbb (Liz)

Sorry you're not feeling well. I totally understand coming home tired and hungry with the family and barely able to conceive the thoughts of cooking yourself something nice. That's why I usually just have same old staples in tow! It's good you recognize when you're eating out of anxiety instead of h...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, KL! Yes, "sweetness" enjoyed for sure. Had a good green Monday: B: oats, pb, 1/4 banana L: flat wrap, turkey hummus cheese, spinach salad D: broccoli chick casserole mixed in with spinach, sweet potato fries Didn't finish all Of dinner Exercise: walking on treadmill and elliptical with frien...

lbb (Liz)

Great work! An inspiration to us all!!

lbb (Liz)

I totally understand the want to try again later. But this is the time for you! You can do it. From the book, I love this part: "Nothing builds power like practice. When you resist these pangs (hunger), it isn't just a one-time act of virtue, it builds the muscle of resistance." Each time you resist...

lbb (Liz)

Yes nailing this down in college (my biggest binge moments) will be so beneficial for your life!

lbb (Liz)

oolala & NoSROcks: I hope I get to the point that treats don't have a pull on me. I think I'm at the stage where I'm not really listening to my body on S days, but doing it because I can. I'm sure I'll get there, though.
I love 7 layer bars. Yum.

lbb (Liz)

I like "with the intent to be in full view". So, even if you're alone, you're not "woofing down" anything, but would not be embarrassed if seen eating. We all know what it's like with a pint of ice cream in hand sitting on a couch...

lbb (Liz)

Good "S" day. A bit over-the-top. If it's in the house, I'll eat it and that's why this weekend has been better than the others. But I had a couple other temptations today only because my boys and I stuffed a few easter eggs with candy. So I munched on some of that, along with other stuff. But overa...

lbb (Liz)

Fun S day.
Didn't go too wild. Was too busy to plan anything too special, so I just was loose about eating a bite here or there of something I wanted to taste, finish my boys' crusts, a handful of chips, and a bit of chocolate.
All coupled with my usual meals.
Busy fun day and didn't feel neurotic.

lbb (Liz)

Looks fantastic and completely yummy to me! ENJOY

lbb (Liz)

Great work on pushing away any negative thoughts. I do that lots too on S days...kinda freak out and want to count calories. But that is just another way to control the day, and to seek self-punishment or even justification "oh it wasn't that bad"... bla bla bla.... NO MORE GUILT! (but I DO relate t...

lbb (Liz)

Selina I like the "no stairs". I quite often on S days disappear to my room. Mainly so my kids+husband don't beg to eat what I'm eating. It's good to enjoy, but not be secretive. Good idea.

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, oolala. So wise. I REALLY didn't need to take the plate. I saw one girl who said, "I just ate dinner and am not hungry yet". I think subconsciously I really WANTED the brownies. But I shoulda know I was going into that situation, called it a special day and allowed myself ONE or something. B...

lbb (Liz)

CMThib82: I LOVE Body Pump. Thanks for the suggestions. I can do a full hour of cardio and not feel the shakes like I do with BP. I've been doing it once/twice week for over a year and it's my fave (coupled with other stuff). I even thought about teaching. Do you love teaching? I'll try doing some s...

lbb (Liz)

Good luck this weekend, KL!
Those Amy meals sound delish. I need a break-up to my N days and may check them out.
I agree about pizza. I DO like it, but it makes me feel stuffed and NOT satisfied. It's easy to eat so much of it, too. The crusts, etc. My boys gobble it up, though.
Take care.

lbb (Liz)

I sure know how it is to not even want another treat for a long time. "Out patient stuff"...what kind of schooling are you in? I love Jason's Deli...maybe I'll get that for lunch today. Thanks for the info about Paleo. It really is a healthier way to eat, overall, if you have no "head issues" like m...

lbb (Liz)

GREEN!
Hard, but made it through. Easier to FAIL again the next day, but remained distracted and knowing I can eat whatever tomorrow helps!

lbb (Liz)

I did "Primal"/"Paleo" last year and though it was tough, I think I was at my leanest for sure. I did feel good, for the most part. And my hair/nails from the fat were great. It's good that you're still getting fruit, sweet potatoes, sprouted bread. I had even cut that out and had gotten locked into...

lbb (Liz)

HOoray!
Sounds SO yummy. I LOVE red cabbage and ALL the things you eat. YUM!
I sure know about LOADED plates! Sometimes I'm SO hungry and worried I'll be munching later, that I load up the plate too.
But at least all your stuff is UBER healthy!
Good job.

lbb (Liz)

I agree about being careful weighing. Not to do it often. I used to be obsessed with it. Weighing every morning. I'd strip down and step on and off and on and off until I was SURE of my exact weight. But to be honest, if it were a bit lower, I'd realize, "oh great! maybe i can eat a little more toda...

lbb (Liz)

Fail or exempt day? I guess it's a fail....which makes me sad. Last night I went to "movie night with the girls". My friend has a big projector and we watched the newest Footloose. Fun to get away without our kids. I had eaten dinner pre-party. 3 meals. Done and done. Wasn't planning on eating any t...

lbb (Liz)

I'm so sorry, Sinnie. I think it's good you have posted and don't feel embarrassed. We all relate and if we haven't posted certain "darker" days, it's because it's too painful to record. I had a slip-up, dent, little crash last night. But instead of beating myself up....I'm going to eat three square...

lbb (Liz)

I love the imagery! When I used to see a therapist for eating disorders in college I remember one powerful thing he said that really helped. He compared my e.d. (bulimia/binge eating at the time) to an abusive boyfriend. He was kind to me, soothed me and served a purpose at a time, but then would be...

lbb (Liz)

True, KL about sometimes it's nice to NOT have the temptation around.
I love dark chocolate as well....mmmm...
That's got to be tough to find Vegan all the time, but it seems like you have it down!
"Answer to prayers"...you bet!

lbb (Liz)

Good call on getting some variety of foods. I know when I get too stuck in a rut I crave different flavors/textures. But then again, I do know I can get those foods on S days..

Are Luna bars considered "dessert" for you? Do you eat "dessert"? Just curious. I LOVE the lemon Lunas!

lbb (Liz)

Wednesday: SUCCESS!
Felt the urge to keep eating post-dinner. Needed something sweet, but had a Diet Sprite instead.
Sometimes even sugarless gum helps.
And of course, getting distracted by something else...

lbb (Liz)

I also agree it's okay to take some pleasure from eating. Just not the ONLY pleasure. And, I love enjoying food WITH people. I do believe with habits at first, that they need a substitute or there's just a big fat vacant space left. For instance, when trying to quit Diet Soda, at first I try to repl...

lbb (Liz)

Here to support you, Sinnie.
It's so frustrating, right?
You can do this. Every day is a new one to start anew.

lbb (Liz)

So proud of you. That's my hard time, too. Is to not keep eating post-dinner.
Great to distract yourself with doing something fun and fulfilling.
Eat to live!

lbb (Liz)

Nice job adapting to a real-life situation of getting your tooth filled (yikes I hate that!). Glad you stuck to building habit. Lately I don't feel hungry for breakfast, but eat because I know that it would set me up for being UBER hungry for lunch. Good habits keeping our conscious mind not having ...

lbb (Liz)

I definitely agree on the protein/water...and caffeine. (For me, I need it!). But to make each of your meals COUNT (fiber-wise, etc). I know if I eat crackers, white bread, and "airy food" over veggies, protein, cheese, etc...then I feel weak and tired. Just a thought! Oh and exercise UPS my energy ...

lbb (Liz)

Tuesday: Success I felt extremely hungry in the afternoon yesterday and it was really tough to not give in. I need to learn that on "Body Pump" (weigh lifting) days I feel extra hungry, and to make up for it at lunch. But I still managed 3 plates. My dinner plate was enormous. Because I was ravenous...

lbb (Liz)

Yep the more you say "no" to the urge, the easier it will get.
I totally feel "the urge" now so I've logged on at this minute...
Good to remind myself it's not worth it!
Good luck!

lbb (Liz)

Keep at it! Change is hard to see short-term, but long-term is much more valuable.
ooala53: great analogy about the wagons!
Dust yourself off and stick to the rules. Be accountable to us on the boards.
We're all cheering for you.

lbb (Liz)

Monday: Success, phew! Felt quite "hungover" this morning and not too hungry today. Oats, breakfast flat wrap, chicken salad, lunch TJ's black bean enchilada/spinach Dinner was kinda last minute and not too fulfilling, quite frankly. You know how tastes sometimes just don't "do it for ya"? But it wa...

lbb (Liz)

KL: I'm so glad you are finding success with No S. It IS nice to have rules and not have such a grey area of "stop at a 5". I've tried that too, but it leaves me always wondering. Plus, then I'm thinking about food LOTS more because I'm always like, "am I hungry enough yet?", "did I eat too much/too...

lbb (Liz)

KL: I relate to the putting kids to bed and consuming a day's worth of calories all in one fell swoop.
And then making up for it the next day.
Insanity.
We can do this. Peace in our minds and souls!

lbb (Liz)

I'm jumping on this 21 day challenge. I went from almost making it the whole 21 days, but with 2 reds. So it's Monday. What a better time to start. I'll jump on this too! March 26-Success 27-Success 28-Success 29 30- 31-Exempt April 1-Exempt 2 3 4 5 6 7-Exempt 8-Exempt 9 10 11 12 13 14-Exempt 15-Exe...

lbb (Liz)

Oh I'm so jealous of your pool time! That sounds heavenly. Love what you said about "living life between meals". Food just isn't that big of deal when you're eating 3 meals/day. Your meals look fantastic as always. I actually think I could be a vegan, but sometimes feel the need for a little meat to...

lbb (Liz)

Way to go! Glad you had a good S weekend. It's hard to not get the hungover Monday feeling after most S days!
Good on ya!

lbb (Liz)

KL & oolala: Thanks for the comments! "Horse cookies"! LOL. Yes, back in the day I used to "healthify" my baking. But now I'd rather have nothing than a "healthy baked good":). Mentally, I think I would just eat MORE if I thought it was healthy! I do love to bake for events and family, and think I'm...

lbb (Liz)

oolala: I think you hit the nail on the head about baking. I made the realization today that I am not immune to baking on an N day. I really can't resist batter. I think it's strange, actually to not taste the loveliness of baking. So, I'll commit to only S days for baking. Or not at all! Also, your...

lbb (Liz)

KL I think it's great you're posting in detail. I think it helps when choosing our foods, too. And at the end of day to say, "wow I had lots of nutritious stuff today!". I SOOOOOOOOOO get nightmarish night-time eating. Like, so. It just messes up how you eat the next day even when you LOVE wholesome...

lbb (Liz)

My structure for my S day today...the first time I've had a plan. Mainly because I don't like it being totally a free-for-all, and I've had two fails in the last two days, so I'm not feeling totally awesome: Breakfast: usual oatmeal Lunch: any sort of yummy sandwich. something DIFFERENT than N days....

lbb (Liz)

3/23/12 Fail Again 3 plates meals Was making poking chocolate chip muffins with my kids for a church event tomorrow. Licked the beater when putting it away. Yum. Then I ended up cooking 80%of the batter into muffins and licking up the rest. Gross. I really struggle when I bake because I don't feel n...

lbb (Liz)

That's a great way of thinking about things: how our ancestors did things. There is all this talk about eating the way they did (pure, non-artificial, whole foods), but along with that comes in THINKING the way they did. NOT counting/calculating. I struggle NOT doing this. It's this false sense of c...

lbb (Liz)

Congratulations on resisting the cookies when you had every reason to "take care" of yourself with food when you felt nervous.
GREAT JOB!

lbb (Liz)

Thank you kindly oolala.
You have a gift with words and inspiring others. Live that analogy with the car.
Live and learn. Mark it and move on.
Xo

lbb (Liz)

Very intriguing what you said about the brain process, oolala! Thinking of it that way kinda helps in binge situations. Like, okay my brain is going to try and make me do something that's easy. I'll try and shift it into something different.... Like when I over-ate tonight, it was strangely comforti...

lbb (Liz)

Wow you inspire me! Keep up the positive attitude and hard work!

lbb (Liz)

had a "fail" today. click to my blog if you want a full re-cap (or to be bored to tears!). moving on. but mad that i made the decision to go with my fail and to "do it right". not an all-out binge, per-se, but still OVER THE TOP and compulsive. not like, "oh thanks neighbor for these lovely cookies ...

lbb (Liz)

Yay I'm so proud of you. That's hard, for sure, esp (for me) when it's FREE. I want to LOAD up! But, you're right: it's a new you and think of it this way: every time you want to do something, think, "is that what i want to do the rest of my life?". Or, change today. These are just HABITS. It's not ...

lbb (Liz)

I'm also glad you are back! I think the term flirting with other diets is so appropriate for what we tend to do. You are right about nothing else working long term, particularly since it seems it's not so much weight you want to lose as it is bad habits. Or at least I am saying you don't need to los...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, oolala53: I do believe that I HAVE to have sweets on the weekend. I guess it's just that I will say, "oh I can buy that _____ or make that ____" this weekend. As opposed to starting to stash aways stuff, ya know? That obliterates my obligation eating. I have issues (which I guess are mainly ...

lbb (Liz)

Great work! Yummy meals and so varied! mmm.

lbb (Liz)

Thought I'd check up on you, Sinnie. How are you doing?

lbb (Liz)

I came across this article from a women's health and wellness coach.
He promotes eating only 3 times/day and NOT dieting. Also, to include in your life chocolate, cheese, etc.
Interesting read, esp. the "diet" portion.
http://kaisalarkas.com/index.php/2012/0 ... s-with-20/

lbb (Liz)

"I do not plan for them, but I allow them on S days if they happen my way and sound good at the time.". Thanks, r.jean!
Wise words which I will instill this weekend!

lbb (Liz)

Wow, KL thank you loads for your comment, support, and advice. I so relate to the driven by knife point feeling come weekends. They most definitely should be enjoyed! I will read and listen to reinhard's podcast about s days gone wild again. I do agree with you that I think I need structure. Like th...

lbb (Liz)

Hooray!!! Oolala you are an inspiration to all! This is great news. I'm glad you are celebrating that you are doing this simply by striving to be a normal eater. Long-term habits instead of short-term stints of white knuckle strictness!
"good behavior comes first"

lbb (Liz)

Great green day, KL!
I also love your food. I'm not vegetarian, but sure love all you eat!
You go girl. Way to say "no"!

lbb (Liz)

Sorry about the late-night phone reply! "Bust=busy", "to=you".
Sheesh I need to edit!
HAPPY MONDAY

lbb (Liz)

I just had my mom-in-law stay with me for the weekend (plus thurs/fri). I pretty much followed vanilla no-s besides a minor slip up. But something I observed was the amount of mindless snacking she did. It was no judgment at all, but it was like watching myself pre no-s. she's a healthy active woman...

lbb (Liz)

Hope to feel well soon. I just got over a cold and it's plain old yucky. Enjoy some sleep before your bust week ahead! Take care of yourself.

lbb (Liz)

Welcome back! I understand the draw to come back to No S after awhile.y sister lives in Singapore too! She walks a ton and actually lost weight when she first moved there because her body was just not familiar with all the walking. Congrats on the new baby! I at first tried to tweak NoS but am reali...

lbb (Liz)

thanks for your comment, Sweetness. That's true. i so think i'm "above" certain temptations, trying to be normal, but I should know better that hot cookies are my biggest weakness. When in doubt, go without. I like the idea of quickly wrapping it up for the next week, for kids' lunches, etc. I shoul...

lbb (Liz)

Another "S" day done and done. I will not make a judgment about it. But will state the facts. Though it's hard to not feel like it was way over the top. Oh well. Makes me grateful for the regular week ahead! Breakfast: Oats, PB, banana (didn't finish all of it) Church: 11-2 (had 2 mini reeses from t...

lbb (Liz)

"I think it took no s-ing for me to take the food off the pedistal. Does that make sense? When I'm dieting, all I want is food I'm not suppose to have. When I'm no s-ing and eating what I want, I don't food obsess so much. Sure I want the brownie, and in a couple days I can have one. A real brownie ...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, again, oolala53 for the wise advice. I like the idea of the training wheels with a unicycle...just plain weird! It's not wrong, per-se, but just plain weird. My S days have been okay, it's just that I keep saying, "wait, Liz, I can ENJOY this cookie and don't need to shove it in my mouth." I...

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S day done and done. I can't say that I feel quite bloated and gross but I found myself just saying yea to everything today food wise. But tried to stay relaxed and cool about it all. But the lack of structure throws me off. Not feeling hungry ever really today. The rest of my day continued with som...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks Denise! That was super helpful yesterday. Though I didn't feel much hunger-wise, I made myself eat 3 plates yesterday just to continue the habit. That way, I didn't over-do it at a specific time. Friday: Oats, pb, half banana No exercise but zoo walking Lunch: turkey wrap, yogurt Dinner: red ...

lbb (Liz)

Oolalla53: Thank you so much for your encouraging words on my check-in. After my "fail", I did just that and moved on. I appreciate your experience with the marshmallows because it really IS those small decisions that make up our life. Not like a marshmallow would kill ya...but what does it mean for...

lbb (Liz)

Congrats on your green day! Your meals look fantastic and so yummy.
I also want to thank you for your comment on my check-in about brushing off the crumbs and starting again. I needed that and really appreciate the support.
Cheering for you!

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